
There was a time when my vote usually went to a Democrat. I seemed to steer clear of referring to myself strictly as a Democrat, but that's usually the way I voted. I was never very comfortable with being labeled as such because subconsciously I knew that I was voting that way due to tradition more than a belief in their platform, with which, I must admit I wasn't familiar. The view that I, and most of my black brothers and sisters held is that the Republican Party does not represent us. I understand why I did and why many do still feel this way, but over the years I have researched and now realize that that belief seems pretty sad. The view of Republicans by many black Americans is that they are rich, white men concerned only about big business. That is a simplification, but pretty much a fair explanation. Though the Republican party may not focus on any particular racial group to obtain their vote, the Democrats certainly do. Is this why most black Americans vote Democrat? This kind of pandering for the black vote seems to reinforce a feeling of victimhood. We, as black people have come through quite a bit in our history here in America. We have overcome a lot, but yes there is still racism. But is that ever going to go away? Throughout all of human history people have liked or disliked certain groups of people based on their race, religious beliefs, etc. This does not give us the corner of the market on discrimination. I am in no way diminishing our plight, but we live in a country that has done a lot to abolish institutional racism. We are free to live and work where we choose, and to work hard to make as little or as much money as possible. It's there for any American citizen willing to put in the extra work and effort to obtain it. I stated previously that the belief about Republicans by many black Americans is sad because it seems to imply that we believe that we are still victims. This feeling is verified when Democrats address our valid frustrations about racism. But is it the same institutional racism that we suffered previously? If you are refused the right to a job or home based on your race can it not be addressed in a legal forum? I know that we face issues of racism often, but is it keeping us from making a living or advancing financially? The Republican's overall behavior in reference to not focusing on a particular racial group is not a bad thing. Didn't we want equality? Didn't we want to be treated like Americans? Should we continue to support a Party that panders to our frustration of dealing with pockets of racism that have no real bearing on our overall success? These questions can be answered honestly, especially from black Americans that identify themselves as Christians.
I would like to make the point that neither of the political parties are perfect, but should we not be voting according to which candidate is more closely aligned with our views as opposed to voting the way we always have? Which party would like to abolish or significantly decrease the number of abortions in this country, and how would God feel about this subject? Which party would allow its citizens the freedom to make a living and earn as much money as they can without interference? Let's look at a few historical facts. The Republican Party was created in 1854 to oppose the Kansas Nebraska Act. This would have allowed the expansion of slavery. It was the Democratic party at their national convention in 1860 that wanted to take a neutral stand on slavery. This separated Northern Democrats from Southern Democrats, which resulted in the election being won by a Republican, Abraham Lincoln. Republicans opposed the expansion of racial slavery and were responsible for abolishing it in this country. It was the Ku Klux Klan that was responsible for the re-emergence of the Democratic Party in the South by preventing former slaves (who were Republican) from voting. During the era between the Civil War and the Depression, the Democratic Party did not consistently stand for anything except the oppression of blacks in America. So why are blacks loyal to the Democratic Party? Besides promises of governmental programs, which again panders to a belief in our victimhood, I don't know why.
More specifically, what is the issue with black Christian voters voting for Barack Obama? They have rationalized their support of him. They wanted so badly to support him that they have swept his bad policies, such as his deplorable voting record on abortion and his obvious associations with radical groups (Islam, anti-American groups) under the rug. Some, out of total and complete stubbornness, pride and dare I say race, have still continued to support this man even after being made aware of these issues. It's one thing if someone agrees with his radical views on abortion , for example, but most of the people I know do not; but still say they are going to vote for him. Martin Luther King Jr. would be very disappointed. In his "I Have a Dream" speech he said, " I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." Are black Americans deciding their vote on the content of character, skin color or a displaced loyalty? Take a listen to this clip and then decide.
www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3

(First response)
KrlyQ, don't be scared to post an opposing viewpoint, as long as you are polite and respectful about it. :)
I'm lazy, so I'm going to respond to a few of your points in point form.
Most women who choose abortion DO use other forms of birth control - but no method is 100% effective.
If abortion was made illegal, women would not be "irritated" - many would be in danger. In danger of death or lifelong illness/disability, in danger of being unable to support themselves and their child, in danger of being forced to stay with an abusive partner, etc, etc.
And absolutely men have a right to choose whether or not to rape people - choosing to be a rapist is a personal choice. Of course, I have no respect for rapists (or anyone who chooses to harm another human being) and it has negative consequences for many people (the people he rapes obviously, and himself if he is caught and arrested) but it's still his choice.
I differ from you on just one thing - I don't believe that an embryo/fetus can be a full fledged human (with all of the rights that all other humans are entitled to). I don't see how it is logistically possible for a fetus and a woman to both be human beings with equal rights AND inhabit the same body. One of them has to be more important than the other. If a woman has a difficult pregnancy and she chooses to abort for that reason (or because she is unable to support a child or because she just doesn't want to be pregnant for whatever reason), that is because her health is more important than her unborn child's. If a woman must continue a pregnancy no matter what (because killing her unborn child is immoral) then the fetus is more important.
Bottom line, I value the lives of born people more than the lives of the unborn.
(second response)
Okay, actually maybe I differ from you on another thing too.
I don't know if you've ever been pregnant before (if you have, you probably know what I'm talking about here), but I have been, twice. Both times it ended in a miscarriage (unfortunately), but I have experienced pregnancy and let me tell you, it is no picnic. It changed my life DRAMATICALLY. I actually had to quit my (very physical) job the first time because it was too painful for me. My boyfriend broke up with me, because my personality changed so dramatically during my pregnancy (as a result of all the crazy-inducing hormones). After the second, my bladder control will never be the same again.
A pregnancy, even a relatively normal/easy one, is not just a minor inconvenience. It changes you, not just temporarily. I want to get pregnant again and have children eventually, but I sure as heck wouldn't wish that on anyone who wasn't 100% into it.
(Note: I am an average, healthy young woman. I haven't got any special health issues that would potentially cause issues for me during pregnancy, other than a streak of bad luck. And if I had such bad luck, how about the women who are less fortunate than me? (Older, unhealthy, etc women.)
Here is my response:
(user name), thank you for your considerate response. I agree that when 2 or more people disagree on an issue as important as abortion and they choose to discuss/debate on these types of forums, politeness and respect are essential.As far as your comment about women being in danger if abortion was illegal; I'm sorry to say but that is an untrue statement. This is one of many statements that have been repeated so often and for so many years that the general public believes it to be true, but it is not. I've read confessions from Dr. Bernard Nathanson over the years and he explains how he knew that in order to gain more favorable support for abortion they would have to lead people to believe that women were dying from unsafe abortions. He admits that the information given at that time were flat out lies. I will be adding a web address on my blog where you can read some of what he had to say on this subject.
Your reference to the man's choice to rape is 100% true, but please keep in mind that EVERYONE has a choice whether or not he/she will commit a crime against another human being. The point is that we as a society agree that it is wrong and expect our government officials (police officers) to make the arrest and for additional government officials (court) to prosecute and sentence that man for that crime. We would never allow a rapist to go free and allow him to continue to rape under the banner of 'pro-choice'.
You mention the life of the mother being more important than the life of the unborn baby. The ban, from what I've read would cover the circumstance of the mother's life, if her life was in jeopardy. That is one of the reasons that the act of abortion was perfected. The way it is being used now is an abuse of that practice.
Thank you for addressing the real issue. The fact that the child inhabits the same body is the environment to which I referred in my previous post. If you have a few moments, I would be happy to explain what I meant more thoroughly:
The only differences between you (or me) and an unborn child is size, level of dependency, environment and development. We have never met face to face, but I'm sure it's safe to say that you are much smaller in size than Shaquille O'Neal. Are you of lesser value as a human being than he because you are smaller in size? Of course not. The level of dependency of an unborn child is great, but it will remain so for a very long time even after the child is born. My son is 20 years old. He is in the Army now, but he still lived with me at the ripe old age of 19 and his level of dependency was still fairly significant. My mother is wheelchair bound, diabetic with neuropathy and on dialysis 3 times a week. Her level of dependency is great because she needs and depends on her insulin and dialysis in order to live. Was my son less of a human being because his level of dependency on me was so vast? Is my mother worth less too because of her level of dependency? Is my son's life worth more than my mother's because her level of dependency is greater than my son's? I'm sure we will agree that the answer is no.
We have freedoms in this country about which people in other countries can only dream. One reason is because the founders of this country recognized that our rights come from our Creator. Most other countries do not recognize that truth, but the fact is that it is a truth whether they recognize it or not. You are of great value and of great worth because you were made in the image of God. If you move to a country that does not acknowledge that fact, do you become worth less as a human being? Your environment changed, but your worth did not. Why do we think that 6 inches, the average length of the birth canal, makes the difference in the child's worth as a human being? Then there is development. An infant is much less developed than a 3 year old; a 3 year old is much less developed than a 15 year old; a 15 year old is less developed than a 50 year old. If we continue to base our decisions of human worth on these factors, we will continue to have to argue whether or not we should have the 'choice' of euthanizing our elderly and disabled. Which is one of the arguments given during the debating of Roe v Wade. Scoffers, or supporters of abortion rights said that would never happen; and yet here we are...
We are facing the social battles in this country because we are devaluing life and have been doing so for 35 years. It has affected the way children value life, which explains that vast number of school shootings in this country and it has affected our treatment of the elderly and disabled as well. Making abortion illegal for convenience will force people to make better choices BEFORE the pregnancy which will hopefully make people realize once again how ALL life if precious and of great value.
http://www.aboutabortions.com/Confess.html